Earlier this year, A Femme in NYC wrote How to Know if a Femme Likes You.  I've been wanting to write a butch counterpart to her excellent list. 

Many butches are shy.  I'm one of them.  Sure, some butches will march right up to you, tell you you're hot, and ask you out.  Not me.  And not most butches I know.  Faced with a hot femme (or butch--God, hitting on another butch brings up a whole host of other issues...), our confidence sometimes melts, a cocky grin turning into a tentative smile.

If the butch object of your affection is one of the shyer members of our species, her hints will be subtle.  These clues apply to butches interested in anyone--femmes, androgynous folks, other butches, or anyone else:

15 Signs That a Butch Might Be Into You 
  1. She happens to have awesome suggestions about where to go to find your favorite kind of cuisine.
  2. When you mention some place you're interested in, she looks interested and/or says, "Oh yeah...  I've been meaning to check that out."
  3. She tells you, "We should hang out sometime."  (She won't actually ASK you out unless you say something positive in response, like, "Yeah, that'd be cool.")
  4. She finds some thin excuse to get your email address or phone number.  For instance, she'll really want to talk to you about that plumber you recommended, or she wants to email you the name of some random book she thinks you'll like.
  5. She invites you to a group outing.  This may seem counterintuitive, since what she really wants is some one-on-one time, but this way she doesn't seem like she just wants to get into your pants (and she saves face, since if you don't return her interest, she can pretend it was just a friend thing).
  6. In a group setting, she sits right next to you.
  7. In a group setting, she sits as far away as possible, then glances your way sometimes even when you're not speaking.
  8. She blushes or gets an "aw, shucks" look on her face when you compliment her.
  9. She insists on paying (possibly signalling that it's a date).
  10. She lets you pay (with the caveat that she'll pay next time, which means that she wants there to be a next time, thus giving her a ready excuse to ask you out again).  
  11. She tells you that you smell nice.
  12. She either talks too much or stays super quiet.
  13. She gives you those patented butch puppy-dog eyes (hint to butches: this doesn't work on other butches especially well; they're onto you). 
  14. She'll do little tiny protective things, like walking on the outside of the sidewalk, opening your door, or offering you her umbrella.  (See, in our effort not to look like sleazeballs, we may be over-gentlemanly, like a 1950s college boy, but with better hair.)
  15. She offers to do "butchly" things for you: fix your computer, check your tire pressure, or install your new garbage disposal.

Got it??

OMG, as I finish up this entry (and I'm totally not kidding), there are a butch and femme tentatively flirting at the coffee shop I'm sitting in.  The femme just grabbed the butch's hand to emphasize something, and the butch held it back, just for a second, and blushed.  Telltale sign.  Then the butch was all like, "Oooh, you should come check out this community garden we have, six of us will be there tonight having a few beers, yada yada yada," and the femme was like, "I totally will."  Well played, ladies. 

So what do you think of this list?  What are some of our other "butch tells?"


 


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Angie
05/04/2012 16:14

LOVE IT! It is so true. I have observed this as well.

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Sarah Elizabeth
05/04/2012 16:19

Oh my! This is so incredibly true! Love it!

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05/04/2012 16:28

Brilliant. Thank you for the play-by-play steps. There are at least 5 of these on the above list that I've completely misread. This ultra-Femme thanks you, humbly. XOXO

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belinda
05/04/2012 17:20

Me too! I'm looking back and going, 'Oh, she totally liked me!'

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Bat
05/04/2012 16:58

loved it but my g/f was out there gave all the signal but when it came to fist kiss or even to holding her hand walking on the beach she was just as shy as I was , but she put it out there saying if I like her ,I would have to make the first move , so finaly I kissed her now we are together but def hard when you are not great at making the first move so love to hear about this ,and beside it was like about 5/6 dates before I even tried to kiss her so how long should it be

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05/06/2012 15:23

Hi Bat! Y'know, I don't think there's a "right" or "wrong" number of dates. I know wonderful couples who slept together on the first date, and wonderful couples who didn't even hold hands for five dates. Seriously. It's a frustrating answer, but you really just have to do what feels right for you.

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Gumbymac
05/04/2012 17:52

Well i doubt we have ever met but you just described me to a T

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AFemme
05/04/2012 18:51

For the record, there is no such thing as "over-gentlemanly"...

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05/07/2012 10:02

sooo true!

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Tina
05/04/2012 19:08

Number 13 is SOOO me!

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Syr Tigressnla
05/04/2012 19:19

This is so Me ..goofy looks ...ah shucks and the total gentleman.. but I let the girl do most of the talking (at times)

Syr Tigressnla

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diane
10/22/2012 23:02

I agree. I consider myself a 'soft butch' and I agree with most of BW's 15 ways to tell. I never liked anyone coming on to me like gangbusters and I don't like to do it to others. I like courting and getting to know someone. But make no mistake. I believe life is too short for head games. Flirting is different. I don't consider flirting to be 'head games'. If I like you, you know it! Of course, the opposite is true, too. And, for the record, I don't mind if a fem makes the first move.

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E.J. crowell
05/04/2012 23:31

What a bunch of bull. If she is a "REAL" butch she won't play such games. She will be brave and just ask you out, like would you like to go out? Whats with all the coy acting stuff ? Be for real, go for what you really want and don't settle for less, and if "SHE" can't stand up and announce she is interested then move on. If you want strong, stable , real butchs look for just that.I can tear a car apart in a day, train a horse in two days and tell a for real butch in two seconds and I do not consider myself butch nor femme, but you better open my door and take out the trash or I'll throw out the trash. Be for real if nothing else.

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z
05/04/2012 23:54

What is a "real" butch? That's bullshit.

Also, while I am happy to open the door and/or take out the trash, and do so often, being demanding and entitled about it is the fastest way to to ensure I won't choose to spend time with you in a setting where there are doors to be opened or trash to be taken out ever again.

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05/05/2012 21:44

"I can tear a car apart in a day, train a horse in two days and tell a for real butch in two seconds..."

...but can you refrain from policing other people's identities?

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05/05/2012 22:30

mx. punk, ftw.

JM
05/07/2012 11:43

Let me guess... you're still taking out your own trash and opening your own doors, huh?

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Ellie
12/20/2012 14:05

I call BS on the horse bit. If you are going to over exaggerate your abilities make them a little more believable. You won't fool any horse-loving girls...

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05/05/2012 01:13

I'm not butch, but I do all of these (except for butchy fixing things - I might offer to sew on your button though - ooh, erh!). To me they're all clear come-ons!

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thingee
05/05/2012 03:02

Wow. In reterospect, yes, she's kinda cool isn't she? I wish I had read this list earlier. Aw *swoon*. I will write it down and put it in my purse for quick reference!

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Blue
05/05/2012 05:12

This list definitely fits me. My crush is another butch. My problem is that besides doing the things on this list, I also get so nervous around her that I can't make eye contact, and I'm not sure I smile much. So, I'm not sure why she'd want to hang out with me.
I think the next time I see her, if I see her again, I may just ask her straight (ha) up if she wants to hang out. I know, it's not asking for a date, but it's something.

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Princess SmartyPants
05/05/2012 06:28

If you want a femme to know that you like her and you're too shy to tell her, act nervous or excited around her. If you appear nervous and even goofy she will think that is cute and she will know that you like her. If you act all confident, how will she know that you like her?

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05/05/2012 15:34

Well I was wondering where I fit on the gender spectrum, and based on this it's definitely butch, lol, especially the offering to do butchy things like fix your computer or use YouTube to solve your dissertation transcription crisis. *ahem*

I loved the "sit on the other side of the room glancing at you when you're not speaking one. I've known butches & studs who make an art form of this.
And have you noticed how butches collect in pools on the outskirts of events?

Why doesn't puppy dog eyes work on other butches?

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05/05/2012 20:48

I think puppy dog eyes work, if genuine - I've used 'em on other butches and had 'em used on me, too. :)

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K
01/29/2013 09:10

I think what was meant is that other butches will see through the puppy dog eyes. They'll know exactly what it means. So its not so subtle shy-butch flirting.

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Inkslinger
05/05/2012 17:19

Hmmm.... well, a lot of what's here isn't entirely "Butch specific" these are very commonplace dating rituals for all genders and orientations. I'm Butch, and I've dated both Butches, Femmes and everything in between. I don't feel there is any one particular dating trait specific to Butches over any other dating folk, apart from perhaps the classic chivalrous door holding and sparkly-eyed wink, Butches really are of the same cloth as any other human being. We flirt the same. We have the same hormones, it's evolution. As a Butch, if you really want to know if I'm into you, ask me.

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Trix
09/18/2012 03:15

I couldn't agree more - let's not get all "gender essentialist" again about what butches are "supposed" to be like.

...Although I will say this list is scarily accurate for me, but plenty of butches' styles are completely different. A "cocky" butch is not going to sit there making puppy dog eyes.

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05/05/2012 22:38

And I guess it's worth noting, too, that not ALL of these signal attraction. I mean, I delight in lifting heavy objects for straight female friends, and I'm being nice because they're my friends and I like them, not because I'm flirting. But a whole bunch of these together... may very well mean something. Especially if you don't know the person very well.

True story: when I was in high school, a guy took me out on Valentine's day, gave me some bath stuff as a gift, and gave me a Minnie and Mickey Mouse card signed with "Love." It completely did not dawn on me that he was interested in anything more than a nice friendship. I gave him a hug goodbye. The next day at school, his friends wouldn't speak to me, and I couldn't figure out why, until one of them finally explained that I had "rejected" him. Apparently he was going for a kiss. Who knew? I still feel kind of bad for being so clueless... and it makes me wonder what other signals I've missed throughout my BW life! :)~

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05/05/2012 23:52

Haha. I just love that you had a real live example when you were typing this up.

Hm. I had just asked a girl to an outing with a group of people tomorrow... of course I needed to get her number for that, so we could meet to go. :) I barely say anything when I'm around a girl I like, which can be a problem if she's the type the also doesn't talk. :D
I've been doing the sitting-across-room glancing for as long as I can remember. Good stuff, this.

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05/06/2012 18:58

i have certainly done all fifteen at some point or another in my life...currently trying numbers, 7,8 and 14 on a gorgeous girl at work...guess we'll see...?!

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05/07/2012 02:30

AWESOME!!!!

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Briellen
05/09/2012 07:30

This was really helpful! Thank you!

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GrimUrsa
05/21/2012 14:13

My Goddess! I just realised that I gave ALL the signs to the woman that I like. I'm more on the butch side of the gender spectrum, but I don't identify as butch - maybe it's a HUGE hypocrisy. Oh, and I'm not even American - this list applies to my country too...

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Kat
07/13/2012 09:07

Wow, number 14 had me laughing out loud at my desk! I am such a culprit for that one that a friend of mine teases me about my "Cowboy Code" with girls I'm interested in.

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TJ
08/27/2012 21:06

I hope some of this stuff works in reverse because I'm inadvertently using it on the butch I've developed. LOL

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Mattie
10/21/2012 16:50

This was so helpful! I just began to wonder about a butch I just met and now I feel a lot more confident flirting with her.
Thanks for the post!

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Alicen-Wonderland
01/07/2013 20:46

All very useful information. But my question is how can you get a butch to notice you? Most people assume I'm straight because I am super fem. But I really just want some butch daddy to scoop me up and claim my heart!

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k
01/29/2013 09:21

Ah, thats definitely me.... Especially the 'protective' things, to the point where if someone opens a door for me I almost always stand there, dumbfounded on what to do next. Then proceed to blush and give the aw shucks look. #ThunderSomeWhatStolen

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Scout
01/31/2013 11:49

Great list! I could have used this when I was single for sure. Oh and I just love it when butch women are super gentlemanly.

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02/26/2013 10:50

this is very interesting post. I love it and I learn a lot from this.

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04/07/2013 17:54

Well, some butches are so confusing and frustrating. Like especially when they are trying to be impartial about their sexual orientation. Or they don't even know you exist until you're practically laying with your belly up saying, "HI HELLO I THINK YOU'RE TOTALLY HOT." I just want to beat my head against a desk. My partner... is a prime example of this. I bought her a beer, I bought her a stick of butter for god's sake and said now that I've buttered you up let's go play pool. She was so freaking dense and had no idea I was into her. Now we're dating she does all of those butchie things like uber protective and fixes all the curtains and washer and dryer. Seriously, some butches are so DENSE! Makes communicating hard >_> because they don't like to communicate. Let's talk about that next... Butchy communication verbal and non-verbal maybe it will help me.

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retrospect
05/12/2013 12:10

Ahh this happened to me recently. Basically everything on the list. I really liked her but was too insecure to handle it, maybe next time I will have better poise. Sure was cute though :)

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