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T-Shirt/Undershirt Reviews!

12/30/2011

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_So you got a some perfectly-sized Calvin Klein button-ups from your DGF for the holidays, eh?  Now you just need the right undershirts to wear with them. (I'm assuming you already have some decent metal collar stays.)  In this entry, I'll review your T-shirt options.  In all cases, I'm talking about "men's" T-shirts, since for many of us, "women's" or "ladies" shirts tend to be too short or cutesy or have tiny sleeves.

Undershirts come in three basic varieties: V-neck tee, regular crew-neck tee, or tank top (for now, I'm not considering long-sleeved undershirts).  I heavily favor crew necks.  Tank tops don't prevent sweat or deodorant from staining button-ups.  And not only do v-necks irritate my lower neck area, but they look dopey when you can see the texture of the v-neck collar under the shirt).  Most of the butches I know favor crews as well, so for now, that's what I'll focus on.  (A summary of my findings is at the end.)
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Before we go any further, a note on printed tees: In general, I have zero objection to printed tees.  In fact, I own a whole bevy of 'em.  But there's a place for printed tees, and that place is NOT beneath your collared shirts.  We can see the print showing through your button-up shirt and peeking out your collar.  And though admittedly we are vaguely intrigued that you ran the Boston Marathon in 2001 and attended a k.d. concert in 1992, this is not how we wanted to learn about it.  

Anyhow, I rate and discuss five kinds of shirts along the following criteria:
  • Thickness: This is more about personal preference than quality.  You may want thicker shirts in winter and thinner ones in summer.  Thicker shirts can conceal your shape, and thinner shirts to be less bulky underneath tighter button-ups.
  • Collar: Collars that roll or stretch look bad when you unbutton the top button of your shirt.  I prefer medium-to-thin collars, but thin collars have a hard time staying flat.  I also like collars that fall slightly lower on the neck, so that it doesn't look like I'm wearing a dickie under my button-up. 
  • Durability: This refers to how well a shirt holds its shape, thickness, etc., through lots of wearings and washings.  I've tested all these shirts through months and months of wear.  Some hold up great, others not so much. 
  • Colors: The official butch uniform is a button-up shirt with a T-shirt under it.  While some butches favor white shirts, I prefer to match the color of my undershirt to the color of my button-up (e.g., a black tees with a dark grey button-up or an orange tee with an orange-and-white striped button-up).  Matching serves two purposes: (1) It looks like you put some thought into your outfit; (2) At the end of the day (or even at the grocery store on the way home from work) you can untuck and unbutton your button-up shirt and look casual rather than sloppy.
  • Procurement: What the shirt costs and where to get it.

MOSSIMO CREW NECK, ATHLETIC CUT
Thickness: Medium to thin.  Soft, tagless.  I often wear one of these + a pair of boxers to sleep.  There's been recent speculation that the quality has recently suffered.
Collar: Medium-thickness.  Perfect cut.  Starts out great.  Then...
Durability: So-so.  Wonderful for the first few months, then the collar begins to stretch and get thin and not lay flat.  For some reason, the durability of the heathered colors is much better than the others.
Colors: Come in a 10-15 different colors, including dark heathered grey, navy blue, teal, orange, a heathered forest green, and more.  Their colors tend to match my dress shirts more than any other brands do.
Procurement: $7.99 each at Target or $7.99-$9.99 each at Target.com.  Many of the Target.com links (like this one) claim that the shirt is not available in stores, which is untrue.


HANES COMFORTSOFT CREW NECKS
Thickness: Medium.  Nice soft feel, and tagless, which I love.  Also good for sleeping in.  (Don't confuse these with Hanes Heavyweights, which are not nearly as nice)
Collar: Starts large, shrinks to medium in the dryer.  Lands slightly higher on the neck than the Mossimo shirts.
Durability: Excellent.  Becomes a little thinner over time, and seems to stain easily, but holds up well.  I've been impressed that the collar doesn't seem to stretch, roll, or have trouble laying flat, even after many washings.
Colors: Black and white are easy to find.  They also come in grey, navy blue, denim blue, forest green, and washed black heather.  Others are hard to find.
Procurement: White and black are often available in department stores.  The price and selection is better online: where I can find them in white (3-pack for $12.99 or $11.80, depending on sizes), and four-packs of various colors and prices here. 

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_LL BEAN CAREFREE UNSHRINKABLE TEE (Note: at the time of this writing, the LL Bean website was down, so I'm not including any links yet.)
Thickness: Very thick, though not unpleasantly so.  Not as soft as Mossimo or Hanes Comfortsoft.  Stiffer, but definitely not scratchy.
Collar: Thick.  Fairly wide.
Durability:  Pretty solid.  I've had several for years, and they keep their shape and never get holes.  Same with the collar: retains its thickness.  The big downside is that the collar eventually starts to pucker.
Colors: 15-20 available: yellow, orange, heather green, white, black, dark blue, light blue, maroon, and more.  (See pic at left.)
Procurement: Normally $14.95 each on the LL Bean website, occasionally on sale for around $9.99.  Also, these seem to run large; I advise ordering one size smaller than usual.


_AMERICAN APPAREL (FYI, this company has had some serious problems.  On the other hand, their shirts are made in the USA, which the others aren't.  So, your call.  This is also worth reading.)
Thickness: These aren't very thick, but the weave keeps me just as warm as thicker shirts do.  If you have sweating issues or don't like to wear antiperspirant, look elsewhere.  Also, the sleeves are a tad shorter than other brands' sleeves.
Collar: Definitely on the thin side.  Within the limits of acceptability, though.
Durability: Good for at least six months.  After that, the collar will begin to stretch out of shape.  And while the color won't fade, the shirt will shrink quite a bit, even if you wash it in cold water.
Colors: These come in literally 40 different colors.  They have yet to come out with a nice rust orange, but everything else seems to be covered.
Procurement: You can get these online for $5.99 each.  They're more expensive in stores.  Also, these run small, so order up if you're on the cusp.


GILDAN
Thickness: Very thick.  Kind of bulky under shirts.  Also, the sleeves are longer than the other shirts--fine for most guys, but not for most women, since we tend to have shorter arms than men do.  (I wear a 32" sleeve.)
Collar: The largest collar of all the shirts I've reviewed here.  Not unacceptabe, though.  Collar falls higher on my neck than I would prefer.
Durability: These seem to get a little scratchy with regular wear.  And then at some point, they lose the scratchiness and get soft again as they're wearing out.  It's weird.
Colors: Like American Apparel, comes in about 40 different colors.
Procurement: Can be bought online for $4.54-$14.99 (but most of the nicest colors seem to be $14.99).


SUMMARY: My rankings from best to worst:
  1. Overall, my favorite is Hanes ComfortSoft, which seems the best value for the money, boiling down to about $4/shirt for white and a dollar or two more for other colors.
  2. American Apparel comes in second for its combination of comfort, color selection, and price.
  3. I'd rank Mossimo as a very close third.  They have the best colors and are soft from the start, but will become your PJ's in 6-12 months when the collars get stretched out.
  4. Much as I love LL Bean, their shirts come in fourth for me.  They'd probably be #2 if the price was lower and the collars didn't pucker.
  5. GILDAN comes in last.  Too stiff and scratchy for this butch.


Any other opinions about these brands?  Any additional brands that butches might especially want to check out?


11 Comments
bookish butch link
12/30/2011 12:21:22 am

I like the Hanes lie flat collars, best value- the blacks turn charcoal after about six months but, then I turn them into sleepwear:-)
I love American Eagle Outfitters and LL Bean to wear with my plaid flannels, but, I'm a more casual butch<wink>

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KDG
12/30/2011 05:16:39 am

Thanks for posting this. I have been on the hunt for good undershirts. I bought a couple of awesome Hane's white undershirts in the little boys' department of Target (I'm really small). I need some more because I wear an undershirt everyday (it helps cover up the lines from my binder) and I can't find ones of the same quality. And, don't get Fruit of the Loom undershirts. The collars are great for about an hour but then they get stretched out and the shirts are really thin.

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Butch Wonders link
12/30/2011 05:58:37 am

I totally agree re: Fruit of the Loom. I remember I bought a pack of black ones once. Within a month, the collars were tiny and stretched out of shape and they had gone from black to an unpleasant dull grey!

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Levi
12/30/2011 07:16:44 am

I think undershirts are one of those menswear things I missed (like the difference between a button-front and a button-down, or what collar stays are) since my parents taught me a different how-to-dress-nicely paradigm.

To what degree are they required? Every day? Only during the winter? Only when you're _really_ dressing up? _Never_ when you're really dressing up? Moreso if/when you are sweaty?

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Morgain
12/30/2011 10:43:51 pm

I found this post oddly arousing. >_>

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C
1/6/2012 07:10:20 am

Some thoughts:
1. A color-coordinated undershirt/t-shirt is OK, but is definitely a more casual look that a stark white shirt under a dress shirt.
2. When your white undershirts start to look the least bit dingy - either bleach them, toss them, or use them as cleaning rags. A dingy looking undershirt can totally ruin a dressy look.
3. Another factor to consider is length -- you need an undershirt that is long enough to stay tucked in, but not so long that it gets bunchy. For me, Hanes Comfortsoft size S are the right length (I'm a tall 5'4").

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DJ
1/19/2012 07:23:03 am

Great site, btw. Wish I had seen something like this, oh 15 years ago.

I exclusively wear Banana Republic crew t's in black - the pima cotton ones, sometimes stretch and sometimes not. They are excellent. I buy them in small because I like a tighter fit but am thinking I need to go medium because they are great until about 50 washes.

They are excellent under anything. Also, in the past few years, I started going solo with shirts without an under t - awesome and sexy. Brought me into neck jewelry, too - hot leather thongs with stainless steel. Yeah, I'm a butch fag.

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B link
8/9/2012 12:53:42 pm

Couldn't agree more about the length... Aside from core things you look for in a shirt this has always been my biggest problem. Hate having to tuck the shirt in over and over again.

Are many companies making longer undershirts or is it more of a European cut or something?

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anon
10/3/2013 11:08:21 am

My Hanes Comfortsoft collars look terrible after wearing for 1 hour. Very rolled and a little stretched and sagging. Same experience with Dockers.

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12/13/2016 01:27:39 am

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