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6/24/2012

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A BW reader sent me this, and I thought some of you might, um, have some reactions to it.  Anybody?  Anybody?
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Stacey
6/24/2012 09:34:55 am

.......What the fuck? There are NOT enough words to describe.......wow.

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Cathy
6/24/2012 09:59:34 am

LOL!! I am laughing my ass off about it, and nobody gets the joke!!! How many times have you heard that we "choose" to be gay. Well this sarcastic poster is a response to that. If gay is a choice, then "tham there straight folk" can be gay too. It's merely an invitation for them to try. Lighten up!

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butchwonders link
6/24/2012 10:13:51 am

I'm not so sure about that... I actually read this as people trying *really incredibly hard* not to be gay.

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maryjames
6/24/2012 10:36:08 am

Lol, looks like a bunch of gay bears to me.

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Liz
6/24/2012 12:58:14 pm

I agree they look like total bears. Was this is a serious Meetup? Wondering how many went.

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Alex
6/24/2012 01:01:55 pm

I think this is fake because this is what straight men do all the time. Ever hung out with them as one of the guys? All they do is joke like they're gay, the entire time.

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jomo
6/24/2012 04:31:10 pm

My first reaction - WTF? (and a little anger)
But on second glance - it's a Bear Trap! to entice the more reticent bears out of the woods. After all thatt's how the first 'bears' started -woodsy gay guys who didn't want to be seen as stereotypically 'gay' getting together for huntin' and fishin' - 'male bonding + sex. wonder how many closeted bears will go for it?

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Cass Smith
6/24/2012 06:16:20 pm

maybe for men who aren't out?

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Jan Angus
6/24/2012 07:32:11 pm

To play around with gender pushes through boundaries that are restrictive to say the least. I think it's okay for these guys to experiment. After all we as butch gals have done so, and do.

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Kimberly
6/24/2012 07:50:56 pm

That is *hilarious*.

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mx. punk link
6/25/2012 06:12:57 am

maybe they're a bunch of bears who're making fun of the "straight but queer" hipster folks?

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Marilyn
6/25/2012 06:56:35 am

I love the variety of comments reflected here and also thought that this must be some sort of invitation from the Bear community for other closeted Bears to come out. And it is also striking, in that it presumes that being gay is a "choice." Thank you for sharing it. I always enjoy how you like to push our envelopes around gender and queer issues!

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PGar link
6/25/2012 07:02:38 am

I don't know if it is real, fake, or some kind of joke, although it is pretty funny. What strikes me is that there is no apparent problem with "men only." Straight or otherwise. OK for straight men or gay men, but no longer OK for WOMEN who want to spend one week in the woods (Michfest) without males, natural OR constructed! Just sayin' . . . .

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mx. punk link
6/25/2012 01:28:51 pm

i thought the issue with michfest was the controversy about trans* women. trans* women are women, so... yeah. i don't know if that's what you were referring to (apologies if i misread your comment). i've never been, so i don't know all the details.

out of curiosity, are trans* men and non-binary folks allowed at michfest? cuz that'd be pretty uncool, imo, seeing how it's supposed to be for women only. women-only spaces seem pretty necessary.

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PGar link
6/26/2012 06:27:56 am

Yes, I know that transgender people who have or who are reconstructing their bodies into a form other than the one produced by their biology believe they are women (or men, as the case may be). The controversy arises because the INTENT of MichFest is a gathering of women—women born, raised and living as women. Women who support this intent—women who have spent more than thirty years building this festival and who want to be able to meet in the woods for a week once a year under that intent—have the right to do so without being harassed or called vile names by others who believe something different. Naturally, transgender people should always have all the civil and human rights afforded by our society and not be subjected to the violence because of their choice, but that does not include MichFest, a private event on private land. Many groups gather together based on shared attributes or philosophy and do not include those who do not share those attributes or philosophies. It is one week in the woods for women born, raised and living as women. Respect the intent.

mx. punk link
6/25/2012 01:29:52 pm

i thought the issue with michfest was the controversy about trans* women. trans* women are women, so... yeah. i don't know if that's what you were referring to (apologies if i misread your comment). i've never been, so i don't know all the details.

out of curiosity, are trans* men and non-binary folks allowed at michfest? cuz that'd be pretty uncool, imo, seeing how it's supposed to be for women only. women-only spaces seem pretty necessary.

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mx. punk link
6/25/2012 01:30:54 pm

urg. sorry about the double post. i do this a lot, don't i?

Blue
6/26/2012 07:31:24 am

"Yes, I know that transgender people who have or who are reconstructing their bodies into a form other than the one produced by their biology "

This depends on how one defines biology. Also, it was my understanding that trans men are welcomed. It is odd, is it not, that people who are not women, and who would not call themselves women, are welcomed in a womens space, and actual women are not.

Blue
6/26/2012 07:34:44 am

I know straight trans men....
This ad says nothing about whether the men attending must be cis, only that they be straight. So it isn't really comparable to Michigan anyway.

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mx. punk link
6/26/2012 09:22:41 am

@blue: good point!

@pgar: ew. i'm not going to go into it with you and have an argument on bw's lovely blog. all i'm gonna say is "ew."

PGar link
6/26/2012 11:04:26 am

@ blue I just thought it was interesting that regardless if the flyer is serious or humorous in its intent, it included a "men only," and that no one seemed to consider that an issue, but that when women want "women only" we are made out to be bigots by some, but not all, transgendered people. Just interesting, not trying to make a one to one comparisons with who THEY consider to be included. At MichFest, those include in the intent of Festival are women who are born, raised, and living as women, or to distinguish from the post-modern corruption of that word—womyn. Regardless of your understanding, that definition does not include transgendered.
@ mx punk "not going . . . into it with [me] and have an argument on bw's lovely blog" would include making virtual rude sounds because you do not agree.

Meg Dean link
6/25/2012 07:23:45 am

Riiiiiiiiiight!

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Susan
6/25/2012 09:43:48 am

LMAO...whatever...

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Kyle
7/23/2012 10:04:40 am

HAHA Try it, YOLO!

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Alexandra link
4/15/2013 05:24:22 pm

I'm not so sure about that... I actually read this as people trying *really incredibly hard* not to be gay.

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