I recently received the following email from a BW reader, and with the questioner's permission, I'll share both the question and my answer to it, as I'm guessing it will resonate with many other readers, too.
Hi Butch Wonders. I love your page so much, and I'm so happy that it gives me some connection to other butches, since I don't have any butch friends in real life Can I ask you a question? I'm a cis butch, and I've been questioning my gender identity for a long time. I really feel like a woman, and I don't feel comfortable using any pronoun but "she," but I recently started binding and now I feel really confused. I used to have an eating disorder, so my chest was pretty small, and when I wore a sports bra, you really couldn't see anything there. I'd get read as a man all the time, but I liked knowing that I did breasts underneath. Now that I've recovered from my eating disorder, I have a very big chest, and I recently started binding. Even when I bind, you can still see that there's something there, but my chest is smaller which makes me happy. It's not so much that I wish I didn't have breasts. I just wish they were small enough that I could still pass as a man, and reveal that I identify as a woman when I want to. I'm sorry that this is so long and confusing, but what I'm wondering is, does wanting to be able to pass for a man mean that I'm trans? Or are there cis butches that like binding/being able to pass too? I'm sorry that this is so long and personal. I'm just really confused and scared of how my family would react if I told them any of this. Thanks for building such a great community with your page. Dear Excellent Person, First, hats off to you for battling an eating disorder. I imagine that was incredibly difficult and took a lot of courage (as does asking the kinds of questions you're asking now). And thanks for your kind words about the blog. I'll answer your question in part by reflecting on my own experience. I hope that readers with different experiences will chime in, too. First, my short answer is that YES, many cis butches bind and love binding, but do not identify as trans*. There are also female-identified butches (and non-butches) who have had top surgery. Personally, I totally ID as female, but sometimes I like that people can't tell my gender right away, and sometimes I get a sociological kick out of the idea that it's so hard for people to interact with others in the absence of knowledge about gender. The thing is, there is no "right" way to be female, or to be butch. If you're a butch-identified woman who wants people to take her for a man at first or second glance, this does not make you less of a woman. It also does not "make" you trans*. You might ID as trans*, or you might not. But this is something only YOU get to define. One way to interpret your question is this: "Does the fact that I like people mistaking me for a man, and that I like binding, mean that deep down, I 'really' want to become a man?" If that is not what you mean, disregard the rest of this paragraph. My answer to that question is definitely no. I mean, you might want to be a man, or ID as a man. But I don't think that these are dispositive "signs" that in a year, you'll be taking T and growing a beard, or that you would be happier if a magic sex fairy came and waved hir wand and changed you into a cis man. Plus, you like being called "she," and you also like having breasts; you just don't always like other people to know you have them. So I'm certainly not "diagnosing" you as non-trans* (no one gets the privilege of "identifying" anyone else!), only saying that your email didn't make me think, "Oh, that person sounds just like my trans* men friends." It made me think, "Yeah, I can relate to much of that." Still, "trans*" is a term that covers a whole panoply of identifications (hence the asterisk). I even know some people who consider themselves male some days and female other days. Are they "trans?" If they say so, yes. If they say they aren't, they aren't. I also know plenty of women who identify as "transmasculine," which several have told me means they have, or cultivate, masculine traits to some degree. I fit that definition, sure... and yet, I don't identify as "transmasculine," and they do. It's not the label that really matters. What REALLY matters is that you present and identify as you want. And this may change over time. Sometimes wanting to bind is a "first step" on the road to what some people call a "full" transition. Sometimes not. (And note that those terms are in quotes to signify the fact that I am using them as working terms to promote common understanding, rather than adopting the common understanding of them.) Personally, sometimes when I don't mind being mistaken as male, it's because it means I'm also being mistaken for "regular." For gender-conforming. For someone whose clothes aren't seen as a "mismatch" for her body. For someone who never has to think about this stuff or be an outlier. I don't feel like I'm "one of the gals" OR "one of the guys," and being part of neither group can feel lonely and isolating in weird unexpected ways. Still, when I WAS "one of the gals," I felt like I was acting a role, and thinking of myself as "one of the guys" just feels wrong. I guess I'm just me. I'm one of the women but not one of the gals. I'm one of the masculine people but not one of the guys. Maybe you're just you, too? I don't know if this ramble of a reply will help, but I'm hoping that something in it will resonate with you and get you a little closer to wherever it is you'd be happiest being right now. Your pal, BW
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not weird
12/2/2014 07:33:12 am
This all makes sense. I find it tiring to be butch b/c i wish i was seen as a NORMAL woman, not as something in between even though I present masculine.
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Angela
12/2/2014 07:37:20 am
That was a really thoughtful and awesome reply. Thank you to both the asker and the answerer. :)
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Erin
12/2/2014 09:41:01 am
I loved your response. This letter reminds me of my wife (who I have known for 25 years, since before we hit puberty). She's cis female but presents in a very masculine style, wears men's clothing or unisex items, and has a typically masculine job (construction). She never enjoyed her breasts, and had tip surgery when we were nineteen. To have the surgery, she had to do gender identity counseling. But she always knew she felt female. But she knew what she wanted her body to look like, and I applaud her. Over a decade and a half later, she feels her surgery was the best thing she ever did for herself. I think everyone should get to be in their bodies however they want and identify however feels right to them, and we should stop policing each other's gender identity.
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Tracy
12/2/2014 08:24:23 pm
Took me years to figure it out. It boils down to the fact that just because I don't want to be a girl, doesn't mean I want to be a boy, either.
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greyskyes
12/2/2014 11:51:12 pm
I feel like this a lot. I dress masculine but ID as female. But I do wish my breasts were a lot smaller or even not noticeable at all under my clothes. I've thought about binding, and I've thought about top surgery. And I've wondered if this was a sign of being trans* as well. After a lot of reading on this topic and self contemplation, I decided the same thing BW says. Only you can define your identity. And it doesn't need to be little boxes we check off to see what matches what.
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Owls
12/3/2014 01:16:21 am
I can totally identify with these issues. I think about them daily. The responses here have made me reconsider top surgery even though I am comfortable as a woman but pass as a man most of the time. I do bind occasionally. I have come to the conclusion that I do not identify as trans*; I am comfortable as butch. To each her/hir/their/his own.
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Kate
12/3/2014 02:11:12 am
I'm the same way...I present as masculine and have been binding on a daily basis for almost two years. Just getting to that point was a struggle as I wanted my wife's support, but once I told her I wanted to bind, she thought it meant I wanted to be a man...I thought I was going to loose her over it, I had to tell her that I didn't want to be a man, but I also didn't want my breast...I'm very heavy on top, so binding can become annoying, especially in the summer, but I threw away all my bras...I also started cutting my hair much shorter (shaved on the sides with a faux hawk) and that took some time for her to adjust too...right now I'm OK with binding, but I long for the day when I can just throw on a shirt and not worry about covering up my breast...I already have to shave on a daily basis due to PCOS, and I'm not interested in bottom surgery or taking testosterone...I just want my breast gone...I still identify as a butch lesbian, or as I recently learned "masculine of center"...that term gives me comfort, because for a long time I felt that I didn't belong to the lesbian world, or the trans world, but somewhere in the middle...I honestly feel top surgery would clear up so many issues for me, like deciding whether I go back out after I get home and get my binder off, etc...anyhow, I agree with BW response, only you can decide for you what YOU feels like...it's not an easy thing to explain and it's almost like if you were Trans, that would be easier because it's something people can understand, it's defined...it really took my wife a long time to grasp what I was trying to tell her and she still has a hard time dealing with it on occasion, but she's learning to trust that when I tell her it's just that I want top surgery and that's it, that it's what I mean...the closest I can come to explaining it, is going back to my tomboy years before puberty hit, back before I started developing...that's how I see myself. I really hope BW response and our comments help. Just know you are not alone, and really, you don't have to explain yourself to anyone! You do what feels right for you and don't let anyone tell you differently...if you can't find support from your friends or family, find people that will support you. There are a lot of blogs and websites online, even YouTube videos to help you along, it's what finally helped me to move forward with binding and when I first started binding I was sooooo excited! My appearance has really transformed in the last couple years because I feel more confident. I hope you find what works for you soon, because there's nothing more empowering that finding yourself...once that happens, nothing can stop you!
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You can make a distinction between breast reduction and top surgery. Top surgery usually involves getting a "masculinized chest" including a revision of the nipples to make them smaller and relocating the nipples to where they'd be on a guy. Some surgeons specialize in keeping the nipple attached to the pedicle so that you keep sensation if that is important - others basically graft the nipple back on - often with a loss of sensation.
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12/6/2014 12:43:01 pm
This post helps me as well with some things I've been thinking about lately. I started reading Butch Wonders as a femme lover of butch women, but now I think I might be a butch lover of butch women (it gives me great comfort that BW is in a relationship with another butch woman). The blog I began earlier this fall is helping me think through some of my questions that come with a complete transformation in my self-presentation. I didn't necessarily feel icky in femme clothing, except when I was pre-pubescent (and was drawn to very femme clothing), and I don't entirely feel automatically "at home" in a button down shirt and tie, but I do *enjoy* a button down shirt and tie.
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Whatever98
5/2/2019 10:06:01 am
Hey great post but I would just like to say: transmasculine people aren’t women. They’re non binary but close to the Male side of the spectrum but it’s a term used to define the experience of someone who was assigned female at birth :)
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